Ryzen 9000 Archives

AppWizard

March 10, 2025

Unfinished PC hardware is here to stay, just like broken PC games

The landscape of PC gaming is increasingly concerning due to the trend of AAA titles launching with numerous bugs and hardware manufacturers facing similar issues. Intel's 13th and 14th Gen CPUs, AMD Ryzen 9000 series, Intel Core Ultra CPUs, and Nvidia RTX 50 series have all received criticism for requiring extensive BIOS updates or replacements to fix fundamental problems. Despite these issues, consumer outrage has diminished, with companies like Intel and AMD experiencing minimal financial repercussions from defective products. The competitive nature of the technology market is leading manufacturers to prioritize speed over thorough testing, resulting in a decline in quality assurance. Consumer demand for PC components remains strong, which may encourage companies to launch incomplete products without concern for quality. The outlook for PC hardware is bleak, with unimpressive generational gains and the rise of powerful consoles posing challenges for PC gaming. Significant innovations are needed to change the current trajectory of PC hardware.

Winsage

February 17, 2025

These chips are no longer supported by Windows 11

Microsoft has released an updated support list for Windows 11 tailored for OEM systems with the introduction of the 24H2 update. This update officially supports new Intel processors, including the Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 series, but excludes older Intel 8th, 9th, and 10th-generation chips, including the Core i9-10900K. The exclusion of these processors aligns with Intel's strategy to transition older integrated GPUs to a legacy support model. AMD processors, including those from the Ryzen 8000 series, remain supported, though some models from the Ryzen 9000 and Ryzen AI families are missing. Existing systems with unsupported Intel processors can still install Windows 11 24H2 and receive updates, but the changes primarily affect OEMs launching new systems. Microsoft has also removed the official guide for installing Windows 11 without a TPM 2.0 check.

Winsage

February 16, 2025

Intel 8th, 9th and 10th Gen processors absent from Microsoft’s Windows 11 24H2 CPU support list

Microsoft has released the processor support lists for Windows 11 version 24H2, adding support for Intel's Lunar Lake and Arrow Lake Core Ultra 200 series processors. Support for Intel's 8th, 9th, and 10th Generation processors has been discontinued, following Intel's shift of its 7th to 10th Gen integrated graphics processing units (iGPUs) to a legacy support model. The official CPU support lists were published after several months of Windows 11 version 24H2 being available. The removal of support for the 10th Gen Comet Lake processors, such as the Core i9-10900K, has raised concerns, especially when compared to older models that remain supported. On the AMD side, Ryzen 8000 chips have been added to the support list, but there are discrepancies, including the mislabeling of the Ryzen 7 Pro 8945HS. The non-Pro variant is absent from the list, and Ryzen 9000 and Ryzen AI mobile chips, like the Ryzen AI 9 370 HX, are not explicitly supported. Microsoft has stated that new processors based on existing architectures will still be considered supported, even if not listed. Systems with CPUs outside the official support lists can still receive Windows updates, indicating a flexible support strategy.

Winsage

November 5, 2024

Gamers are finally flocking to Windows 11 after 3 years

Windows 11 has reached a 51.97% adoption rate among gamers, a 4.28% increase from the previous month, while Windows 10 has declined to 45.95%, a decrease of 2.71%. Windows 11 first surpassed Windows 10 in adoption in August, and the gap is widening as users migrate. Windows 10 will be retired on October 14, 2025, with Microsoft offering an additional year of security updates for a fee. Recent performance issues with AMD’s Ryzen 9000 CPUs at launch were addressed in the 24H2 update. The Steam hardware survey also reported a 1.53% increase in RTX 3060 users, now at 7.24%. Windows 11 includes features like the Xbox Game Bar and DirectStorage to enhance gaming experiences.

Winsage

October 26, 2024

Warning! Most Windows power settings slow Intel’s new CPUs to a crawl

Intel's Core Ultra processor, Arrow Lake, performs optimally only in Windows 11's "Best Performance" mode. In "Balanced" mode, performance drops by 55% compared to the 14900K, and by 67% in "Power Saving" mode. Reviews from PCWorld, Gamers’ Nexus, and TechSpot highlight inconsistencies in performance across different games and Windows versions. Intel confirmed that testing was done on Windows 11 24H2 and acknowledged reports of lower performance in "Balanced" mode, recommending the "Best Performance" mode instead.

Winsage

September 26, 2024

Zen 5 revisited: Testing what a new BIOS and Windows update does for AMD’s Ryzen 9000 chips

AMD's Zen 5 desktop processors, specifically the Ryzen 9000 series, have received a lukewarm reception despite offering improved speed over the previous generation. The Ryzen 9 9950X is noted for its multi-threaded performance, while the Ryzen 7 9700X and Ryzen 5 9600X are considered solid mainstream options. The Ryzen 7 7700X is priced below 0, while the 9700X is priced at 0 but does not deliver a corresponding performance increase. Testing revealed discrepancies in performance claims, attributed to AMD's use of a 'full admin' account during testing. Following the KB5041587 Windows update and BIOS adjustments, a retest showed negligible performance differences in common CPU benchmarks. The testing setup included a fresh installation of Windows 11 and adherence to AMD's protocols. Core parking was enabled for dual CCD processors, but its necessity for Zen 5 chips remains unclear. The Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X showed minimal gains in gaming performance under a 105 W TDP limit, with significant improvements only in heavy multi-threaded applications. Dual CCD processors, such as the Ryzen 9 9900X and 9950X, did not receive a new power limit but benefited from the Windows update, although branch prediction optimizations did not impact gaming performance. Core parking negatively affected performance in some titles, and the Windows update did not yield significant improvements for content creation or multi-threaded benchmarks. Users on the older AM4 platform are awaiting 3D V-Cache variants, while those on AM5 are satisfied with current performance. Future releases, like the Ryzen 7 9800X3D, may show only marginal gains.

Winsage

September 23, 2024

AMD’s BIOS update is great for both Linux and Windows if you want a free performance boost

AMD unveiled the Ryzen 9000 series desktop processors, promising a 16% increase in instructions per clock (IPC). However, third-party reviews indicated that performance gains were not consistent, with AMD acknowledging potential bugs related to Windows Account privileges. Essential branch prediction optimizations were missing in Windows 11, affecting performance compared to Linux. A Microsoft patch improved performance by about 10% in gaming scenarios, but results varied between installations. AMD also released firmware increasing the thermal design power (TDP) from 65 watts to 105 watts, potentially boosting performance by up to 13%. Additionally, AMD addressed latency issues with the Zen 5 architecture through the AGESA PI 1.2.0.1A firmware update. Tests by Phoronix showed improved performance of the Ryzen 9950X with the updated BIOS on Linux, although overall performance remained stable across 385 benchmarks.

Winsage

September 19, 2024

AMD Ryzen 7 – Windows 11 Patch, VBS and Windows 10 – KitGuru

KitGuru tested AMD's Zen 5 CPUs, comparing various generations from Ryzen 7 1800X to Ryzen 7 9700X. They focused on six Ryzen 7 models: 3800XT, 5800X, 5800X3D, 7700, 7800X3D, and 9700X. The testing scenarios included Windows 11 23H2 with and without the KB5041587 patch, with Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) on and off, as well as Windows 10 22H2 with VBS off. Two test systems were used, one with Ryzen 9000 and 7000 series CPUs and another with Ryzen 5000 and 3000 series CPUs. Shared components included a Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 graphics card, a Phanteks Glacier One CPU cooler, a 1TB Crucial T700 SSD, and a Seasonic Prime GX-1600 power supply.

Winsage

September 17, 2024

September Windows 11 update riddled with issues. Here’s what you can do

Microsoft released the KB5043076 update for Windows 11 during its monthly Patch Tuesday event, aimed at enhancing system security and performance. The update introduces AMD’s Branch Prediction Optimizations, potentially increasing performance by up to 11 percent for AMD Ryzen 9000 series processors. However, some users have reported issues such as installation failures, system crashes, and problems with File Explorer. Other reported issues include disabled phishing protection, execution problems with certain system files, malfunctioning "Run as administrator" options, slow search response times, internet connectivity issues, app loading challenges, and difficulties in restarting or shutting down the device. Users can manually uninstall the update if they encounter problems by navigating to Settings > Windows Update > Update History and selecting Uninstall updates. Microsoft has not yet commented on the issues associated with this update.

Winsage

September 6, 2024

Report: Your Windows 11 PC can silently cripple itself and you won’t even know it

AMD's Ryzen 9000 series desktop processors have generated mixed performance reviews, with some users reporting modest gains and others noting better improvements. A YouTube analysis by Hardware Unboxed (HwU) found that Windows 11 24H2 showed an average framerate boost of up to 11% compared to Windows 11 23H2 after applying a Ryzen branch prediction optimization patch. However, individual user experiences may vary due to potential underlying issues in the operating system. HwU categorized installations as "Good Install" for better performance and "Bad Install" for inferior results. In their tests, a 9% performance difference was recorded in favor of 24H2 against a "Good Install" of 23H2, while an 11% improvement was noted across 43 titles with a "Bad Install" of 23H2. Factors such as Virtualization-Based Security (VBS) and Hypervisor Code Integrity (HVCI) may contribute to performance inconsistencies.